[Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
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- valrowler_912Dragon Balls Collector
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[Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 1:14 am
I have been thinking about this for about 2 days now, "How about we make a "sweldo/sahod system in the forum?"
Now, what does this mean?
I would like to suggest a sweldo/sahod everyday for staffs.
Yes I know that we have a 25 points given everyday we log in in TNMAA~
But my question is, is it enough?
Specially to Forum Mods who work everyday to moderate the forums~
DJs (such as me) who accepts request and works hard to entertain our members~
And specially to our respected Admins that maintains this forum~
Well.. not only to staff but to those members who are helpful to the staffs~
(reporting, answering questions by newbies~ .etc)
(this is where the whole reasoning happens)
1st Pros~
1st, I hope that when this system is applied spamming will be reduced, why you ask? Because forum members now knows a very easy way to earn coins~ "HELPING"
Members will be more active in helping others "SURELY" also to staffs~
2nd Lessen the doubts about those staffs who are have a lot of coins.
Because the members now knows that its earned the "HARD WAY" by working~
3rd I also hope that the forum can be a very clean one~ Why? Because of "Helpful Members" helping reporting problems, posts and questions~ The work of Mods and Admins is now lessened~ And now the staff can dedicate there time to discuss more, about new features, future projects and contests etc.
Now the cons
The race to help members is a 1st~
2nd, the Premium Membership is now one step closer to members~ which is a very special Membership as stated in Col-sama's post about it, not just that but every item in the forum shop~ 2nd suggestion here. When this system is applied, raise prices in the forum shop once more~ As I think this is the only way to balance things again.
3rd the urge to become staffs ASAP! Yes I include this as a cons because greed can always overpower you. Because once the members see staffs having daily salaries, greed.. strikes~
P.S. The pros and cons above is my own biased understanding what will be the effect of this system once it is applied~
I cannot determine the daily salaries for now, as I am just beginning to calculate everything. From the uncomplete pros and cons, balance of the economy here in the forum, etc. Well I think I might leave the amount of daily salaries to Admins since they know the economy of the forum waaaaaaay much than I do.
This is just my suggestion so please don't take too seriously (But I wish you will) and please, no negative, foul and bad replies
Now, what does this mean?
I would like to suggest a sweldo/sahod everyday for staffs.
Yes I know that we have a 25 points given everyday we log in in TNMAA~
But my question is, is it enough?
Specially to Forum Mods who work everyday to moderate the forums~
DJs (such as me) who accepts request and works hard to entertain our members~
And specially to our respected Admins that maintains this forum~
Well.. not only to staff but to those members who are helpful to the staffs~
(reporting, answering questions by newbies~ .etc)
Pros and Cons of this system
(this is where the whole reasoning happens)
1st Pros~
1st, I hope that when this system is applied spamming will be reduced, why you ask? Because forum members now knows a very easy way to earn coins~ "HELPING"
Members will be more active in helping others "SURELY" also to staffs~
2nd Lessen the doubts about those staffs who are have a lot of coins.
Because the members now knows that its earned the "HARD WAY" by working~
3rd I also hope that the forum can be a very clean one~ Why? Because of "Helpful Members" helping reporting problems, posts and questions~ The work of Mods and Admins is now lessened~ And now the staff can dedicate there time to discuss more, about new features, future projects and contests etc.
Now the cons
The race to help members is a 1st~
2nd, the Premium Membership is now one step closer to members~ which is a very special Membership as stated in Col-sama's post about it, not just that but every item in the forum shop~ 2nd suggestion here. When this system is applied, raise prices in the forum shop once more~ As I think this is the only way to balance things again.
3rd the urge to become staffs ASAP! Yes I include this as a cons because greed can always overpower you. Because once the members see staffs having daily salaries, greed.. strikes~
P.S. The pros and cons above is my own biased understanding what will be the effect of this system once it is applied~
I cannot determine the daily salaries for now, as I am just beginning to calculate everything. From the uncomplete pros and cons, balance of the economy here in the forum, etc. Well I think I might leave the amount of daily salaries to Admins since they know the economy of the forum waaaaaaay much than I do.
This is just my suggestion so please don't take too seriously (But I wish you will) and please, no negative, foul and bad replies
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 1:52 am
Frankly, I disagree with the idea, I could even care less for the Pros and Cons.
No Offense, but the suggestion is all about... an easy way to earn Coins/Points for Forum Mods and DJs ONLY.
But of all things before what I said above, there is one thing we forgot the most. It seems that you forgot that Applying for a position is your decision, and we didn't even mention in the Application Thread that you'll gain an advantage as a forum member. And that's what you call Voluntary.
Again sorry, and No offense but I will disagree. My reasoning might be harsh, but it's all fact.
No Offense, but the suggestion is all about... an easy way to earn Coins/Points for Forum Mods and DJs ONLY.
But of all things before what I said above, there is one thing we forgot the most. It seems that you forgot that Applying for a position is your decision, and we didn't even mention in the Application Thread that you'll gain an advantage as a forum member. And that's what you call Voluntary.
Again sorry, and No offense but I will disagree. My reasoning might be harsh, but it's all fact.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 2:25 am
great idea indeed but i disagree too.
spamming won't be reduced just because this system is implemented. I doubt it. Actually, if the so-called "members who are helping the staff" can get salary from reporting spams, etc. , then I might as well create another account and spam using my other account and report it with my original one. That way, i'll gain a lot of points, don't you think? Hope you get the idea.
And btw, your opinions are contradicting. In the first pro, you mentioned that "forum members now knows a very easy way to earn coins" and in your 2nd pro, you state that "members now knows that its earned the "HARD WAY""
And aside from that, as mentioned by hyuga, applying for a certain position is a member's decision. We are not force to do the work. That's why there is an application thread. Therefore, what they need is an interested and willing applicants.
I as a member here appreciate all the hard work of the forum mod, dj, admins and all other staff here. But I believe that everyone in the staff understands the fact that before we apply for a certain position, we should put in mind that we'll be doing a voluntary work. Voluntary work means serving without expecting anything in return.
And one more thing, i am sorry for a negative feedback but please bear in mind that every suggestion has positive and negative feed back.
spamming won't be reduced just because this system is implemented. I doubt it. Actually, if the so-called "members who are helping the staff" can get salary from reporting spams, etc. , then I might as well create another account and spam using my other account and report it with my original one. That way, i'll gain a lot of points, don't you think? Hope you get the idea.
And btw, your opinions are contradicting. In the first pro, you mentioned that "forum members now knows a very easy way to earn coins" and in your 2nd pro, you state that "members now knows that its earned the "HARD WAY""
And aside from that, as mentioned by hyuga, applying for a certain position is a member's decision. We are not force to do the work. That's why there is an application thread. Therefore, what they need is an interested and willing applicants.
I as a member here appreciate all the hard work of the forum mod, dj, admins and all other staff here. But I believe that everyone in the staff understands the fact that before we apply for a certain position, we should put in mind that we'll be doing a voluntary work. Voluntary work means serving without expecting anything in return.
And one more thing, i am sorry for a negative feedback but please bear in mind that every suggestion has positive and negative feed back.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 2:55 am
Sorry but I don't agree with this one too. It's better to see members who work and help others voluntarily without getting anything in return. The Points and Coins System we have now is fair enough. Members will get what they deserve. It's not deserving if they just do it for the sake of points and coins.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 3:29 am
I also can't agree with it.
Sorry but I think spamming will not decrease just by implementing this salary system. (I just can't express it but I really have the feeling that it may instead make members spam :P)
I believe that what we have now, which is the pointing system, is enough and fair for members as well as the staffs.
Sorry but I think spamming will not decrease just by implementing this salary system. (I just can't express it but I really have the feeling that it may instead make members spam :P)
I believe that what we have now, which is the pointing system, is enough and fair for members as well as the staffs.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 7:40 am
Sorry but I disagree with this idea its because
» if helping like reporting can get points then i'll create for dummy to help and get more points *spamming is being applied there
^_^
» if helping like reporting can get points then i'll create for dummy to help and get more points *spamming is being applied there
^_^
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 8:45 am
As the others said above joining the forum staff is voluntary so we don't need something like this.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 9:00 am
Well to say it, I already came up with the Idea a week ago
But when I try to think of the proposal, I'm going to make, It failed to meet my expectations, If we apply this system, the sense of community work will be gone.
Remember we are still a Community not a Society, We can't even avail our own Independent Site, and First of all We applied to become a staff with our own Free Will, wanting nothing in exchange.
So For The Conclusion, The Forum is Good at It is and If we apply the proposal, We Forum Mods will no longer be needed.
But when I try to think of the proposal, I'm going to make, It failed to meet my expectations, If we apply this system, the sense of community work will be gone.
Remember we are still a Community not a Society, We can't even avail our own Independent Site, and First of all We applied to become a staff with our own Free Will, wanting nothing in exchange.
So For The Conclusion, The Forum is Good at It is and If we apply the proposal, We Forum Mods will no longer be needed.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 10:06 am
With all respect to Valrowler,
I beg to disagree, the point system seems to function really well among all members of the forum and keep the site in working condition. If we are going to try the extra point system, I think the value of the first system will be lessen but will on focus due to the effect of having new one. The related pressure to the points that are gathered by individual members can be changed too, the value will be changed too and of course, the reason of having points will enacted as "point-only system". The effect will be loosening ties of the community. Though the reason is really good, but the effect will be a burden to the forum since we can't be independent yet. Moreover, the positions required are not insist to the members who want to apply for the position, they are the ones who wanted the position. It's a responsibility to be taken care of not only for the points they gathered but act they already took in when they got the position. This is Us! We love the forum so we got into this job.
I beg to disagree, the point system seems to function really well among all members of the forum and keep the site in working condition. If we are going to try the extra point system, I think the value of the first system will be lessen but will on focus due to the effect of having new one. The related pressure to the points that are gathered by individual members can be changed too, the value will be changed too and of course, the reason of having points will enacted as "point-only system". The effect will be loosening ties of the community. Though the reason is really good, but the effect will be a burden to the forum since we can't be independent yet. Moreover, the positions required are not insist to the members who want to apply for the position, they are the ones who wanted the position. It's a responsibility to be taken care of not only for the points they gathered but act they already took in when they got the position. This is Us! We love the forum so we got into this job.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 10:20 am
Sorry, but I don't agree with your suggestion.
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 7:13 pm
I thank everyone for your time reviewing my suggestion and taking it seriously~
I respect all of your decisions so this system is a no-no
Admins, Lock and archive~
I respect all of your decisions so this system is a no-no
Admins, Lock and archive~
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Re: [Suggestion]"Sweldo" System
Thu May 16, 2013 7:26 pm
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