JESUS Christ, et al. gods "did not" exist

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“I don't know what GOD is, but I know what is NOT”

I was an ATHEIST (we are all atheist) since I was born until I was baptized in my infancy and injected with the idea of God, sin, and hell in my premature age. It's a mere fact obviously that most of believers never dare to question this idea in the first place before letting them be baptized. Even our ancestors never question to be baptized under Christianity. Of course so do with us, how can we question if we were baptized when we were still babies. It would be hard for us to question what we had used to believe already. It would be hard for us to turn our backs from myths even if it contradict the facts. Most religious person are too scared to question religion. They just want to stay it right there whether it is true or false.



[color="Sienna"][SIZE="2"]IF WE CANNOT DETERMINE THE TRUE RELIGION, HOW CAN WE DETERMINE THE TRUE GOD?
IF YOU CLAIM THAT JESUS AND OTHER GODS EXIST BEYOND ANY DOUBT, YOU ARE VERY MUCH WELCOME TO COMMENT.

[SIZE="3"]Halimbawa lang po KASO sa korte ang existence ni Jesus Christ at makukulong siya kung mapatunayan nating nag-EXIST siya:[/SIZE]
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Republic of the Philippines
SUPREME COURT
Anywhere

EN BANC

Anytime
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G.R. No. 123456

PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES, Appellee,
vs.
JESUS CHRIST, et al., Appellant.
[Accused Case: EXIST]

D E C I S I O N

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Anonymous:

Brief Background

Jesus Christ was born of the virgin Mary in Bethlehem, his birth was announced by a star in the east, which three kings or magi followed to locate and adorn the new savior. He was a child teacher at 12, at the age of 30 he was baptized by John the Baptist, and thus began his ministry. Jesus had 12 disciples which he traveled about with performing miracles such as healing the sick, walking on water, raising the dead, he was also known as the "King of Kings," the "Son of God," the "Light of the World," the "Alpha and Omega," the "Lamb of God," and many others. After being betrayed by his disciple Judas and sold for 30 pieces of silver, he was crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days was resurrected and ascended into Heaven.

PROSECUTOR (believers)

The most "authoritative" accounts of a historical Jesus come from the four canonical Gospels of the Bible. The material which refers to Jesus includes the books of the New Testament, statements from the early Church Fathers, hypothetical or reconstructed sources which many biblical scholars argue lie behind the Synoptic Gospels (the so-called Q source), brief references in histories produced decades or centuries later by pagan and Jewish sources[11] such as Josephus, gnostic and other apocryphal documents, and early Christian creeds.[12]

DEFENDANT (non-believers)

Marami po ang hindi nakaka-alam na ang GOSPEL in its original copy ay ANONYMOUS po ito. Ibig sabihin, wala talagang nakasulat doon na si matthew, mark, luke or john ang sumulat nito.

-The Gospels are ALL ANONYMOUS, written in the third person about Jesus and his companions. None of them contains a 1st-person narrative Ex.("[SIZE="2"][B]Jesus and I went up the hill and fetch a pail of water...[/SIZE]")
-The Gospels have NO written claims to be authored by the evangelist (an eyewitness or companion of an eyewitness)
-The Gospel was written about several decades from the said life of christ by a relatively well-educated Greeks.
-If Jesus really existed, there would be a lot of records of him all over the place kasi dapat sikat siya eh. Biruin mo nakalakad sa tubig, ginawang alak ang tubig, bumuhay ng patay at iba pa.
-If he had witnesses, how come kahit isa wala man lang sumulpot o nakapagsulat tungkol sa kanya noong panahon nya?
-There were a lot of historians who could have mentioned Jesus if he really existed, but as I have said, WALA.
-There is a serious lack of detail about the life of Jesus in the Epistles of Paul and the rest of it.
-Even archeology at scholars wala silang makitang original na ebidensya tungkol kay jesus.
-Historians they often referred to wrote just a few sentences and was written several decades after his assumed life. Ibig sabihin hindi talaga sila witnesses ang source ay hearsay lang.
-They can't even prove that the apostles died as martyrs who proclaim the resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ. Ito kasi ang ginawang batayan ng mga defenders as an evidence that they really saw that jesus was resurrected.
-If Jesus raised from the dead how come he was not arrested again,be questioned or be well-known to the public for his GLORIOUS MAGIC?

Resurrection and ascension could be the breakthrough of mankind! This could be accepted by science noon pa sana! It could justify myths about resurrection and his magics.
It could be the biggest event that prove Jesus was indeed God. But why was it so confidential? saan na ang mga witness neto??
Why coud he not make it for all eyes to see lalo na sa mga unbelievers? Bakit antagal na bago lumabas ang Gospels at breaking news?
Can we call that a news if all the details are written several decades later? How can a diary be so accurate words for words if it was written several years after?
Is this an indication that the witnesses and the whole story of Jesus was a "MYTH"?

If he is God, then why couldn't he able to make us all not doubt? The bible wisely states that "John 20:23 - blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." - is a pure indication mga kapatid na maniwala NA LANG tayo at wag ng magtanong. It clearly encouraged us not to seek the truth. At since dumadaloy na sa ating ugat ang pinaniniwalaan natin, we never care whether it was true or not. Basta ang importante para sayo ay ang mga tinuturo nito. But did you happen to realize if tama ba talaga ang mga sinasabe sa biblia? If the bible itself was a lie, how can we believe the rest of its story?

CONCLUSION

In justice, what is important is, not whether the court entertains doubts about the innocence (non-existence) of the accused since an open mind is willing to explore all possibilities, but whether it entertains a reasonable, lingering doubt as to his guilt (existence). For, it would be a serious mistake to send an innocent man to jail where such kind of doubt hangs on to one’s inner being, like a piece of meat lodged immovable between teeth.

Will we send Jesus Christ to spend the rest of his life in prison with such an overwhelming lack of evidences and witnesses of his existence?

WHEREFORE, the Court hereby ACQUITS accused-appellant of the crime of which he was charged for failure of the believers to prove his "existence" beyond reasonable doubt.

SO ORDERED.

ANYBODY
Associate Justice

WE CONCUR:

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Ito po ang mga bagay na mababasa natin sa biblia:











[SIZE="3"]It is not impossible that Christianity simply was the most successful of all times at selling it's story...[/SIZE]
Catholism has various of new invented doctrines which are contrary to the bible itself, and has practiced rites and ceremonies taken bodily from paganism.
In fact, some scholars have found that 75% of the rites and ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church are of pagan origin.
Even Cardinal Newman (1801-1890)admits that temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holidays and season of devotions, processions, blessing of fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, images... are all of pagan origin.
(The Development of the Christian Religion, Page 359)

Roman Catholic claimed that Jesus was the founder of the religion and that Peter was the first pope.
However, there is no evidence that Peter was the first Pope nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years.

Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome".

It was obvious that the fraud of Roman Catholic originated here. Thus, adding to the clarity that Jesus was never their founder who clearly emphasize to do the sign of the cross, use wax candles, veneration of the dead, purgatory, Papacy and etc,.

[SIZE="2"]It has served us well, this MYTH OF CHRIST.
-Pope Leo X[/SIZE]

Look closely the literary similarities between the Christian religion and Egyptian religion that was established long before christianity and judaism.

The Old Testament had actually several similarities to the other pagan stories Before the bible was written.
Examples are Noah's Arc = The Epic of Gilgamesh 2600BC
Moses's Birth (baby in a basket) = Sargon's Birth 2250BC
Moses's Law from a mountain = Manou of India, Mianos of Crete, Mises of Egypt
The Egyptian religion is likely the foundation or basis for the Judaism and Christian Theology.

[SIZE="4"]Is there any non-biblical historical evidence of any person living with the name Jesus the son of Mary,
who travelled about with 12 followers, healing people and the like?[/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]Above are the numerous historians who lived in and around the Mediterranean in or during or sooner after the assumed life of Jesus.
How many of these historians document this figure? Not one.

You think that a guy who rose from the dead and ascended into heaven for all eyes to see, and performed the wealth of miracles acclaimed him wouldn't have made it in historical record?

It didn't because once the evidence is weighed there are very high odds that the figure known as Jesus did not even exist.[/SIZE]

However to be fair, that doesn't mean that "defenders" of the historical Jesus haven't claim the contrary.
Four historians are typically referenced to justify Jesus' existence:



are the first three. Each one of their entries consist of only a few sentences referred to "Chrestus/Christ" which in fact is not a name but a title which means "the Anointed one".



The 4th source is Josephus. And this source has been proven forged by some christians hundreds of years.

ALL of the above historians were born several decades from the assumed life of Jesus and are not considered as eyewitness accounts

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[COLOR="Red"]Belief cannot produce historical fact, and claims that come from nothing but hearsay do not amount to an honest attempt to get at the facts. Even with eyewitness accounts we must tread carefully. Simply because someone makes a claim, does not mean it represents reality. [URL="http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm"]http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm[/URL]
HINDI MASAMA ANG ALAMIN ANG KATOTOHANAN.. BUKSAN LANG PO NATIN ANG ATING ISIPAN AT IPAKITA NA MARUNONG TAYO KUMILATIS NG KATOTOHANAN...

Sighs.... Another Atheist...

Hey moderators.... DO NOT DELETE THIS POST... I smell fun here.

This post from facebook should be good here xd..

During a lecture...

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

now, this is a nice topic for a conversation. there is a substance in post. i could see who is an atheist or not. who believe in God or not. hehehe lol.


since i already stated my opinion and where i stand. i want to see more of the other forumer/s point of view where we can talk about if God do exist or not in a civilized manner. please join our conversation, there is nothing wrong or right. you can say your opinion.

and to the topic.

i already said it. "i believe...." hehehe lol..


note: its up to you to continue the statement "i believe..." in what.. ehehe lol.

I'M Islam Meh! i believe god as Allah! :D

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#5: Your father caught you masturbating

#6: You take a pee but forgot to close your pants

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i bet gods must be have powers like Bankai,Sharingan,Jutsus,Mangekyo Sharingan :lol!:

Not funny at all

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According to the Bible, a global flood occurred about 5000 years ago and after the catastrophe, Noah and his family landed in the Mountains of Ararat. Geologically --and logically--, is it possible to believe such a story?

Archaeological datas show that the deluge is a different version of Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh and the king in the story who survived the flood was turned into Noah by the Jewish priests.

This is the true story of a famous epic found in the Bible, the Koran and the Torah.


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just wait to the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

After the war of Armageddon