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Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:09 pm
Yo my fellow gamers!

This is the Gaming hotline 101. A thread that is made to receive questions. The purpose if this thread is:

  • If you have certain questions about a game, you can ask it here.
  • Dont know what to do next and looking for help(for games of course).
  • Help our fellow gamers with their gaming problems.
  • Newbies or Noobs with a lot of questions.


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Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:16 pm
yoho! thanks vlad sa d2 sa thread! marami talaga akong talaga akong questions... at tinatamad nmn ako mgbasa ng pgkahabahabang tutorial threads XD

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Problem: anu ang LANING?
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Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:22 pm
Zinogre wrote:yoho! thanks vlad sa d2 sa thread! marami talaga akong              talaga akong questions... at tinatamad nmn ako mgbasa ng pgkahabahabang tutorial threads XD

Name: Zin
Game title: dota/lol
Problem: anu ang LANING?

umm..... yung laning sa dota ay pagsunod mo sa lane for example sinabi ng kampi mo "Dun tayo sa top! dali!" yung top lane lang yung pupuntahan niyo! kung sa individual laning naman susundan mo yung designated lane mo dun ka lang magpapataba ganun

yun lang pagkakaintindi ko.... XD! tagal ko na walang laro laro ng dota XD! HAAHAHHAHA


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Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:25 pm
Zinogre wrote:yoho! thanks vlad sa d2 sa thread! marami talaga akong talaga akong questions... at tinatamad nmn ako mgbasa ng pgkahabahabang tutorial threads XD

Name: Zin
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From my experience saka pagkakaturo saking mga kaibigan ko. Laning ay yung pagpili ng magandang lane kung saan ka mas tataba. saka yung pag linya sa hero na kayang kaya mo or patas lang. Yun lang. hope it helps
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Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:01 pm
figures... but in general, panu mo masasabi na ang hero/champion ay para sa mid/top/buttom?

kada laru ko kasi sa lol palagi nalng ako mid...
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Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:32 pm
kung hitter ka o ikaw yung magdadala ng laro, mid ka dapat para mabilis farm. top at bot halos parehas lang. its up to you kung san ka nadadalian. saka may mga hero skills na mas madali gamitin sa mid. Ex. shadow raze. mas madali ibato sa straight lane.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:28 am
Zinogre wrote:yoho! thanks vlad sa d2 sa thread! marami talaga akong questions... at tinatamad nmn ako mgbasa ng pgkahabahabang tutorial threads XD

Name: Zin
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Problem: anu ang LANING?

okay. from the term itself, "laning" is choosing your lane on a MOBA game and doing your job on the lane, such as wiping of the creeps, destroying towers, and scoring kills.


Zinogre wrote:figures... but in general, panu mo masasabi na ang hero/champion ay para sa mid/top/buttom?

kada laru ko kasi sa lol palagi nalng ako mid...

e2 ang mahirap sagutin. at most, ang common laning is 2-1-2 (2 at top, 1 at mid, 2 at bottom). pero minsan sa DotA, HoN at DotA 2, nagkakaroon ng 1-1-3 lane. pra rin 'to sa lane domination. at minsan kc kya n ihold ng isang hero ang lane. note that sa 1-1-3, ang dalawang "1" kyang ihold ang sarili nila, at ung tatlo ay specialized for lane domination and lane assists (ung dalaw dalaw). kya minsan isa s nsa 3 s 1-1-3 lane ay jungler, or ung nabubuhay sa farming. (ex. naix)

sa LoL, 2-1-2 rin. pero pag ranked games, nagkakaroon ng 1-1-2 lane. 1 solo top (ung kaya ihold ung lane, kadalasan mataas ang crowd controlling or ung mabilis umubos ng creeps), 1 mid (ang AP carry, or magic type), 2 sa bot (isang AD carry, or attack type, at support) tpos ung isa ay jungler. ung jungler ay nagala sa buong mapa.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:45 pm
@vlad and jose

wow thanks sa reply ^_^

but AP and AD stands for?
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:08 am
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:51 pm
@vlad event lang yan eh... ako nga rin di ko maevolve ang pet ko kasi walang el seed T_T...bakit ko kasi pinaubos pakain sa pet!
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:16 pm
Zinogre wrote:@vlad and jose

wow thanks sa reply ^_^

but AP and AD stands for?

I think it is:

Attack Damage - Used for auto attacks and some ability scaling
Ability Power - used for most other ability scaling
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:04 am
Aw, so that means kailangan ng cash para mapa evovle mo pet mo ng mas maraming beses. thats sad to hear
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:31 pm
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Zinogre wrote:@vlad and jose

wow thanks sa reply ^_^

but AP and AD stands for?

I think it is:

Attack Damage - Used for auto attacks and some ability scaling
Ability Power - used for most other ability scaling

you almost got it. truth is, it's what you said already. though there are still some specifics.

ex. AD is Attack Damage, similar to physical attack. so the more the AD you have, the more powerful your attacks. this is where the "three-hit-KO" terms came from. the main attribute of a fighter type champion.

AP is Ability Power, for your abilities, or skills (you know, the four skills that the character you use has). the more you have this, the more powerful your skills are. kya may "one-hit lng ng isang skill" na term. the main attribute of a mage type champion.

note that AD and AP first originated in LoL, and its more advisable to use such terms on the said game pra ndi magkalalituhan.

about scaling, it really depends on the ability of your champion (e2 ung tawag sa hero sa LoL). may mga skills kc n AD scaling (mas malaki ang AD, mas bakat ang bawas), at meron ring AP scaling (mas malaki ang AP, mas malaki ang bawas). so it really depends on the champion you use. meron p nga both AP and AD scaling.
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:08 pm
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Problem: Can someone help me,.. What is the difference of all these games? Gameplay wise,or anything.. Any answer is deeply appreciated :)
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:03 pm
@edge hmmm... dota lang at lol ang nalaro ko. the difference I see between the 2 are graphics, item shops, and hotkeys.

mas maganda ang graphics ng lol imo. mas madali ang hotkeys. Peor wala nmng item shop sa mid/top/bot at wala ding ibon para sa pamimili.

though meron nmn yatang app na hotkeys para sa dota. IDK, may mas expert sa akin dito sa maybe may mas mgandang sagot sila. thuogh I hope nakatulong ako ^_^
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Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:08 pm
Bro Edge, kung difference pag uusapan. marami. From heroes to champs, items, skills, effects, map, UI, basta marami. pero marami ding pagkakaparehas, gaya ng goal, destroy the opponent before they destroy you, patayin si Roshan or Baron, ipush mga towers, farming, creepings and so on and so forth.
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Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:29 pm
I guess you're right broVlad... Thanks for the reply.. also thanks din Zin~

I'll post some help sooner or later..
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Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:54 pm
SacredEdge wrote:Name: SacredEdge
Title: Lol/Hon/Dota
Problem: Can someone help me,.. What is the difference of all these games? Gameplay wise,or anything.. Any answer is deeply appreciated :)

hmm.. ano nga ba??
actually pare-parehas lng cla ng motif at nature.
ang pinagkaiba lng..

1. usable characters. khit sabihin mo n may pagkakaparehas cla, meron at meron pa ring pagkakaiba. hiniram ng HoN ung motif ng ilang heroes s DotA (ex: c Andromeda s HoN ay si Vengeful Spirit sa DotA). tpos s LoL, prang gan2 rin. pero modified at ndi tlga copy, di katulad ng s HoN (ex. ang Vengeful Spirit s LoL ay si Urgot, the Headsman's Pride, dahil s Ultimate Skill nia na parang Nether Swap.)

2. Gameplay Strategy. uso ang tagu-taguan s mga games na 2. kya may mga wards, para makita mo ung mapa kahit wala dun ung hero mo. sa LoL, naglagay cla ng mga "brush", mga damo para makapagtago kau ng mga kasama mo. prang blindspot s mapa, unless warded.

3. Neutral Creeps. s LoL lng nauso ung neutral creeps na nagbibigay ng buff. take note of that. s iba, halos pare-parehas lng. at ndi pede mangontrol ng neutral s LoL, di tulad s DotA dahil s Helm of Dominator at kay Chen, the Holy Knight.

4. Pushing. gan2. pag napush ung specific towers s DotA s loob ng base, magtitrigger ng Mega Creeps. s LoL, ung mga gan2ng tower, nagrerespawn.

5. Items. ndi uso ang invi items s LoL. hehe. pero nagimbento cla ng bagong term bukod s lifesteal, ang spell vamp, n prang lifesteal, pero mula nman s skills. bale e2 ung lifesteal ng magic.

6. Laning Strategies. DotA, HoN and DotA 2, may concept ng Boots of Travel, town portal, blink dagger, at pagdeny ng creeps. pero s LoL, libre ang town portal pabalik ng base (recall). ang blink at teleport, kasama s summoner spells, skills n bukod p s apat n skills ng hero mo, n pede mong gamitin pra s survival, kills at strategies. at, walang creep denying at "killed himself" na term s LoL.

7. Character Boosts. merong mga "runes" at "masteries" sa LoL. bale bago magstart ang game, isesetup mo 2, tpos maapektuhan n2 ung gagamitin mong character throughout the game. bale khit wla pang item ang character mo, may stats n agad cya. s DotA 2 at HoN ndi ko lng sure, pero s tingin ko meron n rin cla n2.

8. Money Pot. pano b 2? ahh. ndi ka mawawalan ng pera s LoL pag namatay ka, compared to the others.

meron pa ehh.. teka isip pa ako.
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Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:43 am
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SacredEdge wrote:Name: SacredEdge
Title: Lol/Hon/Dota
Problem: Can someone help me,.. What is the difference of all these games? Gameplay wise,or anything.. Any answer is deeply appreciated :)

hmm.. ano nga ba??
actually pare-parehas lng cla ng motif at nature.
ang pinagkaiba lng..

1. usable characters. khit sabihin mo n may pagkakaparehas cla, meron at meron pa ring pagkakaiba. hiniram ng HoN ung motif ng ilang heroes s DotA (ex: c Andromeda s HoN ay si Vengeful Spirit sa DotA). tpos s LoL, prang gan2 rin. pero modified at ndi tlga copy, di katulad ng s HoN (ex. ang Vengeful Spirit s LoL ay si Urgot, the Headsman's Pride, dahil s Ultimate Skill nia na parang Nether Swap.)

2. Gameplay Strategy. uso ang tagu-taguan s mga games na 2. kya may mga wards, para makita mo ung mapa kahit wala dun ung hero mo. sa LoL, naglagay cla ng mga "brush", mga damo para makapagtago kau ng mga kasama mo. prang blindspot s mapa, unless warded.

3. Neutral Creeps. s LoL lng nauso ung neutral creeps na nagbibigay ng buff. take note of that. s iba, halos pare-parehas lng. at ndi pede mangontrol ng neutral s LoL, di tulad s DotA dahil s Helm of Dominator at kay Chen, the Holy Knight.

4. Pushing. gan2. pag napush ung specific towers s DotA s loob ng base, magtitrigger ng Mega Creeps. s LoL, ung mga gan2ng tower, nagrerespawn.

5. Items. ndi uso ang invi items s LoL. hehe. pero nagimbento cla ng bagong term bukod s lifesteal, ang spell vamp, n prang lifesteal, pero mula nman s skills. bale e2 ung lifesteal ng magic.

6. Laning Strategies. DotA, HoN and DotA 2, may concept ng Boots of Travel, town portal, blink dagger, at pagdeny ng creeps. pero s LoL, libre ang town portal pabalik ng base (recall). ang blink at teleport, kasama s summoner spells, skills n bukod p s apat n skills ng hero mo, n pede mong gamitin pra s survival, kills at strategies. at, walang creep denying at "killed himself" na term s LoL.

7. Character Boosts. merong mga "runes" at "masteries" sa LoL. bale bago magstart ang game, isesetup mo 2, tpos maapektuhan n2 ung gagamitin mong character throughout the game. bale khit wla pang item ang character mo, may stats n agad cya. s DotA 2 at HoN ndi ko lng sure, pero s tingin ko meron n rin cla n2.

8. Money Pot. pano b 2? ahh. ndi ka mawawalan ng pera s LoL pag namatay ka, compared to the others.

meron pa ehh.. teka isip pa ako.

Sankyou sa Mahaba at meaningful na Answer brojose~
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:37 pm
No prob Edge. :star
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:41 pm
gankers, junglers, tankers... alam ko ang tanker (duh) at may idea nmn ako sa jungler pero wala akong idea kung anu ang ganker.

may question is... aling lane karapat dapat ang mga position na ito?
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:08 pm
I think gankers ay lumalabas lang pag ambush yung mga tipong mga pro hero/champion pag ambush then junglers naman yung naglilibot lagi sa Map then Neutral Creeps lang lagi

Gankers - All around lanes para sakin to kasi depende pa rin sa plan yun eh timing then execution

Junglers - same as gankers all arounder din siya pwede siya maging Ganker mostly support tong mga junglers i think hahahaha
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:09 pm
Gankers - base sa mga naririnig ko. sila yung KILLERS ng game. or HITTER kung baga. Gumagala sila sa ibat ibang lane para pumatay. Kadalasan ang gankers ay may malakas na stun or slow pang gank. Karaniwan sa MID sila magsisimula kasi kailangan agad nila lumevel, then roam na para sa kills. So basically, walang karapat dapat na lane sa gankers since nagroroam sila.
Tankers- depende sa hero. Kung saan ka may advantage.
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:47 pm
@Swiss @Vlad: you got it there.

so the ganking looks like this.

jungler = common ganker. since ang main role nila ay gumala, matik na ituu.

top laner = ganker kapag advantage nila ang lane. mid ang madalas na ginagank, or bot kng may teleport, or khit s jungle, pra masupport ang jungler.

mid laner = tagadalaw ng bot at top lane pra mkpagpush agad.

bot laner = madalas n ndi nagala, since kelangan nila isupport ang lane. medyo crucial kc d2, and2 kc ang carry o tagadala ng game.

so gan2 ang kadalasang arrangement ng laners:
top = ung kayang magsolo. either tank or hitter.
mid = kadalasan magic type or killer or setter (AoE type)
bot = carry and support
jungler = bsta kaya isustain ang sarili nia ng ndi naglalane ng matagal, at kayang gumala. either tank or killer lang 2.
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thanks for enlightening me guys! I'll try to remember those pointers!
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